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      CommentAuthoreor1122
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2014
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    I have not used Sodium Lactate before and it's been mentioned that can help because but really need something to help harden my bars with my current HP recipe.

    Can I add this during a rebatch?

    I am going to start experimenting with other recipes & oils, but want to "save the ones I have that seem almost terminally soft.

    thanks :)
    • CommentAuthorTaylor
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2014
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    Let's start with what is in your recipe. List all the ingredients here and
    we can help you. I would not add sodium lactate to a rebatch unless you
    must rebatch for other reasons. Let's see if we can solve this problem
    without the need for rebatching.
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      CommentAuthoreor1122
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2014 edited
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    the one I use mostly is:

    274g crisco
    274g olive oil
    182g lard
    346 water
    126 lye

    plus EO or FO and veg. glycerine for color

    then more water to rebatch after set out for 3wks because I wanted to remold it but it was still soft before the rebatch felt kinda like a funky eraser....firm but still squishy.....does suds just right (IMO) not to much and small creamy bubbles

    Also.....I do hot process, which I know yields a softer bars. But it seems to take forever for some to harden up.... Some seem OK others not so firm.
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      CommentAuthorchrima
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2014
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    Which kind of Crisco? The new one with palm oil in it?
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      CommentAuthoreor1122
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2014
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    Yes it does.

    Here's the list of ingredients:
    Soybean oil
    Hydrogenated Palm oil
    Palm oil
    Mono and digycerides
    TBTH
    Citric acid

    (Also it's the Aldi brand not the name brand)
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      CommentAuthorchrima
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2014
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    I did a little calculation with your recipe in the soapcalc app and the recipe is not really on top of the list as far as hardness goes. It's great for conditioning though. I would just leave it alone in a place where it can breathe for at least a couple of weeks and see what it does.
    • CommentAuthorTaylor
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2014
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    If you are using sodium hydroxide I am suspecting that the starting
    temperatures are low, 100°F or less. I would not rebatch. If you are very unhappy
    with this soap then cut it into cubes and drop these cubes into a new batch as though
    they were chocolate chips in cookie dough (not as thick as cookie dough though).

    Otherwise I would make these changes for your soap.

    274 g Crisco
    274 g Olive Oil
    182 g Lard
    250 g Water
    96 g Sodium Hydroxide

    Your calculation was appropriate for potassium hydroxide. If you are using
    potassium the soap should be very soft because potassium is for liquid
    soap, this would result in a paste and not a bar.

    Make your starting temperatures 120-130°F and the other changes and you
    should get a firm bar.

    Tina
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      CommentAuthoreor1122
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2014
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    I'm not sure about my temperatures the instructions for HP soap that I've seen all say that I don't need to worry about temps like with CP.

    I am using sodium not potassium.

    The recipe above was one I came across that I was starting out with. I did just switch it up a bit and that new one seems to be OK so far.

    I think I'll grab some M&P and slice the soft soap in question into it like you suggested.
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      CommentAuthoreor1122
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2014 edited
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    This is how it came out

    roses and goats mikk photo _20141108_073714.jpg
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      CommentAuthorchrima
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2014
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    That looks really pretty!
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      CommentAuthoreor1122
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2014
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    Thank you!
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      CommentAuthoreor1122
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2014
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    Taylor I'm going to try the recipe you gave, the last batch I made using a different combination (made before you posted the above) is still soft.

    now I wonder if because I used a lot of glycerine when I added my color could be part of the problem. I have to double check on the site to see how much color I need to add to the glycerine.