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    • CommentAuthoradmin
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2015
      1 point
    Welcome to the forum! There are somethings people have asked about how the technical operations of the forum work and this post hopefully will hold most of the answers!

    To post, simply fill out the "Enter your comments" field.
    To start a new discussion, click on "Start a new discussion" on the left side of the screen. If you have recently joined, you may need to be an approved member before you can start a discussion. Introduce yourself over in Introductions and one of the admins will approve you.
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    Votes are similar to "Likes" on Facebook. You can use them accordingly.
    The main moderators are Andee and Taylor. If you find anything of concern, please shoot a whisper off to one of them.

    To post a picture, you will need to follow the directions below.

    1. Place your picture online. You can use Facebook, Imgur, Instagram, photobucket, flckr, or your own website. These are just places that people have put their pictures and are not required. You can use any place online.

    2. Find the direct URL for the picture. This will take you directly to the picture. Copy the URL to your clipboard. Once you have found it, highlight the url, right click and select copy. (Or you can hold down ctrl-c)

    3. Go to the discussion that you want to post the picture on and put in the code <img src="websiteaddresshere"/> Copy that code exactly except put in the website address where I put websiteaddresshere. Leave the quotation marks.

    4. Under your post you have the option "Format comment as Text Html" with little selectable bullets next to text and html. You have to have html selected.

    5. Hit post and see your photo if you did above steps correctly.

    I used a blog photo from Taylor's Tropical Illusion Lip Balm for this example. http://blog.thesage.com/2015/03/09/tropical-illusion-lip-balm/

    <img src="http://blog.thesage.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/03092015TAH-B1-01.jpg"/>

    This shows as the code because I am in the TEXT mode on the post.
    • CommentAuthorSteph7
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2015
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    Hello! I just wanted to say, thank you for letting me join the group. I am eager to learn about soap-making. Thanks again!
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    So glad you are hear Steph!!! YEA!!!
    • CommentAuthorSteph7
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2015
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    Thanks so much, Shelly!! I am so eager to learn what I can. Such a nice board with so much great information!
    • CommentAuthorsoapbuddy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2015
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    Could someone please tell me why am I get negative points for not being here in just one day? I am a full time soapmaker and don't always have time to check in every day.
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    Hi Irena!!

    Welcome, Again!! I got to say Hi to you over on the Glycerin Method Liquid Soap Thread here on the forum!! Nice to see you again :-)

    Well, I think it is NOT YOU...the website is having some weird issues today. I was just talking about it on another post. The forum is having some glitches...

    If you still notice this problem, say about Wed. or so, then speak up again. Lets give MMS some time to fix this computer issue. its weird, many ppl have been getting double posts when they write something too. This is an old problem that they DID fix a while ago, but who knows...computers surely can get glitches. Anyway, welcome and We are all so glad you are hear
    • CommentAuthorsoapbuddy
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2015
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    Thank you ArtisanShelly
    • CommentAuthorlramnarace
    • CommentTimeJun 28th 2015
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    Hi, my name is Laura and I'm newly registered so I'm not sure if this is the right place to be posting this. I just have a question and wonder if anyone knows the answer:
    Occasionally I'll notice that a batch of cold process soap will develop yellowish/gold discolored spots over time, after its been demolded for at least a couple of weeks. I notice it especially in lighter colored soaps and it doesn't happen all the time. I use the same recipe most of the time so I'm sure its not that I've gotten the lye/oils ratio wrong. Also, I only use essential oils, never synthetic fragrances. Any clues you can give to me will be greatly appreciated. I've had too much soap become unsalable because of this.
    Thanks!
    • CommentAuthorsoapbuddy
    • CommentTimeJun 28th 2015
      1 point
    Hi lramnarace,
    It sounds like DOS, which is dreaded orange spots from oxidized oils. Are you mixing everything well and use a stick blender? How old are your oils?
    • CommentAuthorBella
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2015
      2 points
    Hi everyone,

    I sort of joined and jumped in without introducing myself. Where are my manners?! I have ordered from Sage and never really noticed the forum previously. I've been brought down by some back issues and was researching ingredients and recipes. The recipe search landed me here and this looks like a very nice forum.

    So, now by big admission.... I've never made soap! Ah, I feel better now. I've strictly immersed myself in lotions, balms, creams, serums, toners, micellar waters, etc., never anything bubbly or foamy. I may give it a go at some point but for now my heart leans to emulsifiers and homogenizers. Pouring that oil phase into the water phase and seeing the magic of hydrophilic heads and lipophilic tails forming a beautiful emulsion makes me do a happy dance. I am totally hooked. And, hooked on the science of it all, too. I have become a complete chemistry geek. I love learning about micelles, lamellar structures, HLB, ingredients and the controversy they can create (parabens, for one). So, how could I hate chemistry in high school? Oh, yeah, that creepy teacher. But, now I love it. I'm even planning on taking an organic chemistry course this fall. Probably won't even mind a creepy teacher.

    Well, there is my story in a nutshell. Thanks for having me on the forum. I look forward to getting to know you all.
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    Hi Bella,
    Thanks for joini g and the introduction. That high school teacher may have been bad news, but add the word organic before chemistry and I bet you have a hip, cool, and fun instructor. Let's hope that teacher is male. :-)
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    Well its about time I joined this group! I have been using the lye calculator for years and put all my friends on it too! Thank you for such a great resource! I have goats so I use their products in my soap... all pretty basic, no fancy oils or far away places for me... I'm keeping it simple and local. On that note I'm wondering how if at all the calculations would change for adding lye if I use the inner fat from around their organs, and not the under the skin fat... the former is much softer.. I will await my approval and then ask the group. Thanks again! Maryann www.goodnote.ca
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      CommentAuthorandee
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2015
      1 point
    Welcome Maryann! I would suspect that it would not change the calculations at all.
    • CommentAuthorlivbarcs
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2015
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    Thank you so much for this website. My oncologist recommended cocoa butter lotions and oils for the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy. I found you while searching for an alternative to the commercially available cocoa butter products which I have not liked. They were all too greasy or sticky, staining, or evil smelling. So now I plan to (fearlessly?) make my own, with your help. This should be a great adventure. As an ABSOLUTE newby, where do you suggest I start?
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      CommentAuthorApril
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2015
      1 point
    Hi livbarcs, and welcome :)

    After a little surface research on peripheral neuropathy, it seems there's not a topical fixer upper out there. I saw things that may or may not relieve symptoms depending on your own bodies symptoms. I'd suggest much more research and do try some suggestions like cocoa butter, menthol, certain essential oils, and capsaicin (oooh, scary!). I don't believe we can help you fix you up but someone here could probably suggest how to mix up some simple creams to potentially give some slight relief. If not relief, you'll at least have the softest hands and feet :) I hope you find a mix that makes you more comfortable.

    I'd start by reading the blog. There's many good recipes that are not too difficult.

    http://blog.thesage.com/2010/08/10/cocoa-butter-balm/

    http://blog.thesage.com/2011/03/28/spring-relief-menthol-butter/

    Once you've figured out what kind of recipes you like, then you can add ingredients that might work specifically for you and that your oncologist agrees with too. Mayo suggests you clear ingredients with your doctor so you don't inadvertently use something contradictory to any medication.
    • CommentAuthorlivbarcs
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2015
      1 point
    Thanks for your quick reply. Actually, the cocoa butter was the only ingredient specifically recommended by my doctor. I thought he was being flippant, or trying to create a placebo effect, but it turns out that he is absolutely serious about this, and he is a respected, leading researcher at a major cancer center. My other doctors are doubtful at best, but I figure it's worth trying.

    As a first effort I have whipped coconut oil into melted cocoa butter (1 part oil to 2 parts butter). The result is solid, but melts instantly on contact with skin and absorbs well. I smell like a brownie. I've now ordered your most refined, odorless cocoa butter to avoid my sweet shoppe effect. As I understand it, if I have an oil/butter formula with no water I do not need to add anything to prevent spoilage? Is this a good ratio, or would you change it?

    I asked the doctor about other possible ingredients. He only cares about the cocoa butter. So I guess what I am looking for is the most efficient way to apply cocoa butter to skin, preferably in a way that is pleasant to use and non staining.
    • CommentAuthorlivbarcs
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2015
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    I see that this has evolved into a discussion that might reach more interest in Lotions and Creams, so I will try to open it as a topic there. Hope I do not offend by doing this, and thanks again, April!
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      CommentAuthorApril
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2015
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    Not at all! There's people here with far more knowledge than me and that is probably a great place to start :)
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    Hi Olivia, I looked for your question in the lotions and creams department section to no avail. So, I will ask my question here. What did your doctor think that Cocoa Butter could do specifically for your symptoms of peripheral neuropathy. I have TONS of neuropothy since I am paralyzed. I mean, I know that it would soften the skin, but what could it possibly do for nerves that are well, not working right? Thanks and glad to meet you
    • CommentAuthorlivbarcs
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2015
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    The principal thing I remember is that he said I should consider all of the studies on edible chocolates, including the release of serotonins, etc.. He feels there is some cross dermal exchange of these powerful nerve stimulants. I was so surprised, to be honest, that I did not really comprehend the specifics. I will see him again in December, and will try to get specifics. My neuropathy now is mild, but it is a known side effect of the chemicals that keep me going, so It will be with me, probably increasing, for what I hope will be a good long time. Good to meet you, and good luck. Olivia ( I've now been able to post in the lotions and cream section. As a new member I was at first not able to start a discussion.)
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    Hello, I'm new here and was looking to join in some fun. I'm looking for maybe some blog challenges for soap making and or some swaps. This is a new area of crafting for me and I have a lot to learn. What better way to lean then to join a challenge or two.
    (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))
    Priscilla
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      CommentAuthorandee
    • CommentTimeJan 6th 2016
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    Priscilla,

    Welcome! We hope to have some swaps roll out within the next few weeks. In the meantime, feel free to ask questions and chat with us!
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    Thank you for the warm welcome Andee....I will read through some first and I'm sure I will be full of question :)
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    Welcome Prisillastyles!!! So glad to have you here, this is a FUN Forum with tons of great advice floating all around. And Yes, the Swaps are the BEST here...that is something you do NOT want to miss. Welcome!!!
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    Hello! Thank you for allowing me to join the forum. I'm very much looking forward to an amazing stay here.
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    Hi Vanessa...I'm new too :) Welcome!
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      CommentAuthorchrima
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2016
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    Hi Priscilla and Vanessa! Glad to have you here.
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    I have had the hardest time trying to make soap for a challenge. It seems like after I add the color and fragrance, it gets hard sooooooo fast :( I need the soap to stay soft so I can swirl it with ease. Anyone have an easy recipe for CP soap that would work?

    Hi Chrima :) Thanks for the welcome.

    If you want to see my soap attempt, click here.....

    http://priscillastyles.blogspot.com/2016/01/morning-sunflower-sunshine.html

    ((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))

    Priscilla
    • CommentAuthorLionLady
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2016
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    Hi! I joined the other day, after ordering some oils from The Sage. I've made three batches of shampoo bars, and a batch of shaving soap. I'm discovering that I prefer cold process soaping. I got into this after buying some shampoo bars from Lush, and realizing that I don't like using products with Sodium Laureth Sulfate in them ( also don't like the bright, intense artificial colors in the LUSH products)... worked at an orgainc grocery for nearly 10 years, and just got away from the "chemical additive life." I wanted a shampoo bar for travel that I know whats in it.

    My second batch of coconut oil shampoo bars (cold processed) came out nicely, after some worry over using coconut milk. Now, I wait for it to cure. I've found some really great web pages for those interested in "natural" ingredient soaping. thenerdyfarmwife and mommypotamus are two of my favorites. Simplelifemom is another. Glad to be part of this community!
    Pam
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      CommentAuthorApril
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2016
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    Check out the blog here too....they have many wonderful tutorials. Also, Soap Queen, Great Cakes Soap works, The Otion, and many other bloggers have tips and tricks. I've so many bookmarked and followed.
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    Hi everyone! I am relatively new to soap making, and although every batch has turned out correctly, there is something I don't understand about the lye calculator. Why is there a range for the recommended amount of water to use? I understand how using more lye or less lye will give me a different degree of superfatting, but what is the reason for the range of water?

    Thanks!

    Jim
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      CommentAuthorApril
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2016 edited
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    Hi Jim, welcome.

    I'm still fairly new to soap and stuff so probably can't put this in the clearest of terms but will try.

    Your range is the minimum or maximum amount of recommended water for a recipe. Some recipes you can get away with discounting the water or using less, like in some cold process recipes. The less water used means the bars will cure faster, basically loosing water weight over time.

    Changing water to lye ratios can also make some pretty spectacular effects in soaps as a decorative aspect. For instance, http://auntieclaras.com/2015/09/the-ghost-swirl/. Ok, so this is just how to use declaratively, not necessarily answering your question, but ratios do matter.

    Some recipes benefit by using more water, like hot processed soaps where you cook the soap.

    I usually discount water in my cold process recipes and increase it when hot processing. There's sure to be others out here that can clarify even further.......
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    Thanks, April. That makes sense.
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      CommentAuthorThyme2soap
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2016
      1 point
    Thank you for having this forum and allowing me to join!
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    Welcome Thyme2soap. I was just curious what do you make? Or are you new to soaping? I hope this new year brings much fun and joy with all the new members. Welcome Everyone.:)
    • CommentAuthorgabriel
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2017
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    hello everybody
    my name is Gabriel and i was for a long time a member of the mail list that was going on.
    i have been away from making soap for few years but now i am back.
    i did not sale my soap or made it for some time now, for few years, well it was because i did not have the need. i have an Israeli Arab friend that his family has olive trees and every year his mom makes 100% olive oil soap. without all what we do, no lye calculator, her molds are disposable plastic cups or some boxes, and yet its a great soap and she gives me every time few kilos. i still have a lot left.
    i still have in my computer some posts that i kept trough the years. one of them is for a great gout milk soap from a very nice lady named Ann.
    well it feels great to be back.
    thanks everybody god bless you
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      CommentAuthorc2bb54
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2017
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    Welcome back Gabriel. I love 100% Olive Oil soap as well as goat's Milk soap. Those are two of my favorites! Cindy
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    Hi Gabriel, Is their anyway you can explain more in detail about that olive oil soap that you get from the Israeli Woman? I would LOVE To know some of her "Secrets" on how she makes her soap without using a lye calculator. Sounds SO Interesting! I suppose in some form its like cooking ....I know myself I have things I can bake and cook that I make without using any recipe..This sounds so fascinating!! Welcome back by the way :-)
    • CommentAuthorgabriel
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2017
      1 point
    hi Shelly .
    the most funny thing about it is that she does not have any secrets. as far as i understand she just take some lye mix it with water and pour it into the oil.
    my friend, her son gave me few batches, huge ones that got hard so fast that she didn't have even the time to pour it into her paper cups that she uses as molds. when i made a 100% olive oil soap it took me ages before i could use it and her soap was ready after a real short time. i gave it the " thong test" and it was a very little stinging.
    i tried to tell her that she is using to much lye and to concentrated because her soap always have that rather thick layer of white at the top of it that tells about the amount of the lye in the soap. i didn't even scrape it, just washed it under the water and i got that great hard white soap. its kind of drying so i use it mostly at summer time when there is much humidity in the air. i do use the lye calculator at the 5% range and it sims like she is in the relay hard bars.
    i find it much more natural in this way, like in the time without any technology just tradition.
    if you are interested in how exactly she is doing it i can try to ask her.
    by the if you can let me know how to upload photos here i show you a picture of the soap.
    by by for now
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    Hi ALL...Can somebody please teach Gabriel how to upload pictures? Its been awhile for me and I am not sure how to do this myself anylonger...Thanks!!!

    Gabriel WOW, This sure was an interesting read for sure!!! Yes, she sure is into tradition over science....Maybe one day YOU Will be able to be the one that teaches HER About the science part...I know she is making hard bars of soap....but one thing I like to tell people is this....when I FIRST Got into soap making years ago...I tried making liquid soap...liquid shampoo....well, the FIRST Time I ever used it I ended up burning a huge clump of hair right out of my head....lol...NOTHING More scary in soap making then to hurt yourself like that....and it would of been worse if I hurt anybody else. I NOW Make Awesome liquid shampoo....but it took lots of science and time to KNOW What I was doing. I am not saying anything bad will happen by not running her soap thru a soap calculator, so far so good and nobody has been burned badly....saying that, it only takes that one time and somebody she loves could really end up hurt. That is why I hope for her sake that one day you will be able to gently present to her how to use a soap calculator.
    Thanks so much for sharring the story with us....SOME People have been doing things traditional like for many years....like I said...so far so good for her....how super interesting indeed....Her success would just be higher if she could sometime understand some science behind her tradition....You are a super kind and gentle person and oh so polite....wow....just RINSING OFF The soap so you don't hurt her feelings. you are truly kind :-)
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      CommentAuthorandee
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2017
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    Gabriel,

    Directions for pictures can be found at the top of this discussion! Welcome!

    Andee
    • CommentAuthorgabriel
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2017
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    thank you Andee
    • CommentAuthorgabriel
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2017
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    hi Shelly,
    i was writing 3 times now a big post to you about the soap and it vanished somehow, so i will write it again in another time. meanwhile, i tried to upload the photos here and it did not work. so if you want you can search on the Facebook under the name : Gabriel Lavi and there they are, especially for you.
    well i real want to go on with the story but i'll make short...well we'll see what comes out...
    in israel, before it became a state, some of the Arabic people had their own land, some of it the state took for national needs and the most of it they kept. and this family has their own olive trees plantation. every year after they made the new oil, the lady takes the leftovers from the year before and she makes soap. she don't sell it but gives it to the whole family. it's like that for many many years now. i tried to tell few times about calculating lye but i think it was like speaking Chinese to her. i also tried to tell her son but....anyway, it's like this for long time now and no damage is done.
    anyway, something about the photos, you will see photos of two kinds. one is her soap and the other is mine so you can compare.
    the molds i used this time are tomato paste packages with no additives at all just soap with 70% olive oil from that friend's trees, 10% palm oil, 10% coconut oil, 10% castor oil and at trace phase i add some shia butter melted. no smells and no colors.
    have a great time and talk again soon
    • CommentAuthorgabriel
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2017
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    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=62img src="websiteaddresshere"/8304007368499&set=pcb.628304037368496&type=3&theater
    • CommentAuthorgabriel
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2017
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    i'm not sure, but maybe the link above will get you to my page.